[Sat Jun 19 23:54:49 2021] Flatline >> Flat honestly butts heads with a lot of people already
[Sat Jun 19 23:55:03 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> I wanted to be an space man, I wonder how I'd do in 0 G with non functioning legs
[Sat Jun 19 23:55:39 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Imagine if Crowley and Flat become friends XD They just cancel each other out
[Sat Jun 19 23:55:48 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> After Crowley called Marionette a "Nutter" Hexi put "rude" in her mental notes
[Sat Jun 19 23:56:15 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> And I put "rude" in my notes XD
[Sat Jun 19 23:56:15 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Oh he's rude, no doubt
[Sat Jun 19 23:56:50 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> He's also biased towards humans, a bit lol
[Sat Jun 19 23:56:56 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Hexi is a dry addict and you don't see her bitch :p
[Sat Jun 19 23:57:18 2021] Stake >> Lizzie Lee has a specific reason for hating mind mages
[Sat Jun 19 23:57:26 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> ~~but also Hexi is the part Ida plays to upkeep the facade~~
[Sat Jun 19 23:57:33 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> I don't think Hexi saw her dad turn into a metaracist that then snitched on his son to his mates XD
[Sat Jun 19 23:57:34 2021] Stake >> Mind Magic is also like, awful and terrible and evil
[Sat Jun 19 23:57:48 2021] Stake >> But beyond that, Lizzie has a very specific hangup
[Sat Jun 19 23:58:45 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Basically Crowley has daddy issues because da indirectly fucked his life up XD
[Sat Jun 19 23:58:57 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Hence mind magic
[Sun Jun 20 00:00:06 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Crowley is an excommunicated Catholic because of his Black Magic, inner conflict goes brrr
[Sun Jun 20 00:00:23 2021] Stake >> My characters’ backstories:
“My dad was a Shadowrunner and was disappeared by a Corp, now I’m following his footsteps and I’m doomed haha isn’t life great?”

“My partner was mind controlled and I had to kill him. And now I’m caring for his secret daughter because I’m the one who orphaned her.”

“I was black bagged at fifteen and held for six years in a blacksite where they studied my brain, River Tam style.”

“My corporation dissolved and I only managed to poach a handful of assets before I voluntarily took to the streets to start a business”
[Sun Jun 20 00:01:03 2021] Stake >> Man, Green really is the worst
[Sun Jun 20 00:02:00 2021] Switch >> "I'm a manchild and my girlfriend broke up with me. I wish I was cool like those guys that do crime and live outside the law."
[Sun Jun 20 00:02:52 2021] Thermite >> ^
[Sun Jun 20 00:02:58 2021] Thermite >> This one is brilliant.
[Sun Jun 20 00:03:11 2021] Switch >> That's Switch'a backstory.
[Sun Jun 20 00:03:14 2021] Stake >> That’s Switch
[Sun Jun 20 00:03:17 2021] Stake >> Yeah
[Sun Jun 20 00:03:17 2021] Elle_Mayo >> "wow I can get paid $10k to party all night and all i have to do is pick one of these extremely hot people to sleep with and then paint their sleeping boss's head for a sniper?"
[Sun Jun 20 00:03:23 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Hexi: "I'm a 71 year old, with the looks and mind of a 20, that had done nothing really with my life for the past 15 years, I enjoy my life but I'm bored"
[Sun Jun 20 00:04:49 2021] Gearslip >> And Gearslip has the conflict of "My role runs on money and I also pay 20% taxes on my gross income"
[Sun Jun 20 00:05:15 2021] Gearslip >> Recluse, Gloom, Atalanta
[Sun Jun 20 00:05:17 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Crowley
"My dad turned into a racist, fucked my life up so I killed him and became a government asset, now I work for a shadowrun fangirl lawyer"

Guilt-Trip
"I wanna prove myself"
[Sun Jun 20 00:05:33 2021] Gearslip >> I don't remember your other two characters
[Sun Jun 20 00:05:35 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Akane: "I'm a corporate asset, I was raised to follow orders and be an asset. I have deep loyalty for my family and the company. *Who are all of these people and why are they nice to me?*"
[Sun Jun 20 00:06:25 2021] Switch >> Is Atalanta a failed merc?
[Sun Jun 20 00:06:26 2021] Gearslip >> Right, Featherfoot
[Sun Jun 20 00:06:27 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> "I robbed the right guy and got a job, but that job nickles and dimes me so I run to feed my hedonism"

"My otaku parents faded and the Yakuza had me track technomancers to sell to MCT and possibly teenagers to kidnap for other nefarious purposes. I stabbed them in the back when I found out and went independent."

"NOBODY WILL FIGHT ME FOR BLOOD SPORT ANYMORE SO NOW I BREAK THINGS AND KILL PEOPLE FOR MONEY IN A DIFFERENT WAY"
[Sun Jun 20 00:06:29 2021] Gearslip >> More like
[Sun Jun 20 00:07:03 2021] Stake >> That last one is def Tombstone
[Sun Jun 20 00:07:20 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> God I love Pain Train, I wish Pain Train liked my characters lol
[Sun Jun 20 00:07:30 2021] Stake >> Pain train hates everyone
[Sun Jun 20 00:07:41 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> PAIN TRAIN hates very few people.
[Sun Jun 20 00:08:03 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> Because they are mostly dead and not worth hating anymore.
[Sun Jun 20 00:08:48 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Nice
[Sun Jun 20 00:09:10 2021] Stake >> “You’re not worth my hate, you get only@my ambivalence”?
[Sun Jun 20 00:09:17 2021] Elle_Mayo >> pain train kinda reminds me of <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrGNarwxl6o>
[Sun Jun 20 00:09:33 2021] Gearslip >> Damn, Atalanta might be the only person who can see through Gearslip's facade.
[Sun Jun 20 00:09:42 2021] Gearslip >> Also, it's still at least as fun as Gearslip's xD
[Sun Jun 20 00:10:04 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> More like "I HATE YOU" *bloody squishing sounds* "NOW YOU AREN'T WORTH HATING"
[Sun Jun 20 00:10:09 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> See again, literal patricide XD
[Sun Jun 20 00:10:19 2021] Stake >> Man
[Sun Jun 20 00:10:28 2021] Stake >> Gorgon would be so jealous of Crowley
[Sun Jun 20 00:10:37 2021] Stake >> Her parents died and she had nothing to do with it
[Sun Jun 20 00:10:46 2021] Stake >> And now she never can
[Sun Jun 20 00:11:30 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Crowley also worked for the government under thread and got literally indoctrinated into black magic by wanna be Manson lol
[Sun Jun 20 00:12:27 2021] Stake >> That’s
[Sun Jun 20 00:12:34 2021] Stake >> Certainly a story
[Sun Jun 20 00:14:03 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> He burned a bunch of people and MI6 came knocking like: "Work for us or get arrested"
After he got let go he got Manson'd into doing Black Magic, later he became a catholic and got kicked out because of the black magic XD
[Sun Jun 20 00:14:26 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> Ive got one more for a character I can't submit quite yet
[Sun Jun 20 00:15:43 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Gun adept probably
[Sun Jun 20 00:20:28 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Found a Crowley theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1o3byr-xuo
[Sun Jun 20 00:22:42 2021] Thermite >> Fingers no likey all day of work. P:(
[Sun Jun 20 00:23:05 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> He spells like he speaks today...IMMERSION
[Sun Jun 20 00:31:01 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> PAIN TRAIN WORK OUT
[Sun Jun 20 00:35:30 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> How to work out like Pain Train: Get Cyber
[Sun Jun 20 00:36:05 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Hey Akane has cyber and has a 30+ hour workout routine for the week
[Sun Jun 20 00:37:46 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> Crush twenty cars, run forty miles
[Sun Jun 20 00:38:20 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> One Punch Troll(?)
[Sun Jun 20 00:38:26 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> What even is Pain Train
[Sun Jun 20 00:39:06 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> No shit?
[Sun Jun 20 00:39:17 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> You fucking with us lol
[Sun Jun 20 00:39:31 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Fucking hell XD
[Sun Jun 20 00:39:41 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> 
[Sun Jun 20 00:40:04 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> *such amaze*
[Sun Jun 20 00:40:14 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> *gaze upon it*
[Sun Jun 20 00:40:16 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Please tell me that's comissioned
[Sun Jun 20 00:40:43 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> I know a guy who used to do comics. HE CAN MAKE PAIN TRAIN A COMIC BOOK CHARACTER
[Sun Jun 20 00:41:08 2021] Stake >> Ethan did that right?
[Sun Jun 20 00:41:23 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> I did comission Ethan Brewerton for it, yes
[Sun Jun 20 00:41:35 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> That's wonderful
[Sun Jun 20 00:41:44 2021] Stake >> He’s absolutely fantastic
[Sun Jun 20 00:42:05 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> I don't wanna comission anyone for anything in case my character dies before it gets finished
[Sun Jun 20 00:42:11 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> I also almost comissioned a PAIN TRAIN vtuber avatar as well but
[Sun Jun 20 00:42:17 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> That happened once
[Sun Jun 20 00:42:27 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> VTUBER PAIN TRAIN
[Sun Jun 20 00:42:48 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> She's lurking again
[Sun Jun 20 00:49:40 2021] Nebulous >> Do it
[Sun Jun 20 00:50:24 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> I don't doubt the magnetic personality of the PAIN TRAIN
[Sun Jun 20 00:51:01 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> I doubt my ability to play games in character and stream reliably
[Sun Jun 20 00:51:50 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> And my wallet. Comissioning vtuber avatars is expensive, and not an investment I can afford to fizzle
[Sun Jun 20 00:53:01 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> My mate did it for me for 60 bucks
[Sun Jun 20 00:56:16 2021] Tombstone/Pain Train/NV-OC >> I found an artist who could for a couple hundred but that doesn't cover the cost of rigging or a capable camera
[Sun Jun 20 00:56:35 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> My friend is still learning the rigging
[Sun Jun 20 00:57:37 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> I do enjoy the ~~love~~ tolerate hate relationship between GT and Akane
[Sun Jun 20 00:58:59 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> It's as far as she will go because she honestly dose not care
[Sun Jun 20 00:59:54 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Idk I think it's funny "I don't give a shit but you should get better friends"
[Sun Jun 20 01:00:13 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> This is like the second time lol
[Sun Jun 20 01:03:56 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Don't be friends with your contacts
[Sun Jun 20 01:04:22 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> *she says and her two main contacts are family members*
[Sun Jun 20 01:04:49 2021] Elle_Mayo >> > ((OOC literally the only reason he has that name because his surname is Crowe))
lol thats valid but being judgemental and jumping to conclusions is fun
[Sun Jun 20 01:04:49 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> But they are both only loyalty 2
[Sun Jun 20 01:05:26 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Also there was a bit about it being his Nickname in Secondary but I didn't include that
[Sun Jun 20 01:06:21 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Just wait fi she finds out he slept with the Infobroker on multiple occasions
[Sun Jun 20 01:08:33 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Listen Hexi would probably be the better person for GT to associate with
[Sun Jun 20 01:08:48 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> But no it ended up being Akane which is more funny
[Sun Jun 20 01:08:54 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> But that would be boring ish
[Sun Jun 20 01:09:38 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Akane has better interactions with GT, Hexi is a flirt, he gets enough of that from the Infobroker
[Sun Jun 20 01:09:43 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Hexi would try to help him past his issues
[Sun Jun 20 01:09:51 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Boooring
[Sun Jun 20 01:10:28 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Akane is a person
[Sun Jun 20 01:10:56 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> His street cred is like...One
[Sun Jun 20 01:11:22 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Akane is SC 2 now, cause I got paid with SC 😅
[Sun Jun 20 01:13:47 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> I should've given Crowley the exeptional att so he'd have magic 7 lol
[Sun Jun 20 01:13:53 2021] Elle_Mayo >> it's just a legend, but who knows, maybe something sacred is buried in those texts after all 🙂
[Sun Jun 20 01:14:06 2021] Thermite >> Not that it matters, since the player is unavailable until 25 - solstice is 22nd, yeah?
[Sun Jun 20 01:14:19 2021] Thermite >> Noice.
[Sun Jun 20 01:15:09 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> They weren't kidding when they said Recluse was a big deal huh
[Sun Jun 20 01:15:45 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Not in the year we are set in, it's the 21st
[Sun Jun 20 01:16:13 2021] Thermite >> Longest day of the year
[Sun Jun 20 01:16:17 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> WOOO
[Sun Jun 20 01:16:42 2021] Thermite >> Look, my only RL magic experience is breaking a curse
[Sun Jun 20 01:17:02 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> No social life to speak of so I can talk to myself at a fake party
Oh fuck is GT invited?
[Sun Jun 20 01:17:14 2021] Thermite >> You are
[Sun Jun 20 01:19:19 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> SHIT NOW I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHY GT IS A HERMATIC
[Sun Jun 20 01:19:41 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> *yes*
[Sun Jun 20 01:19:48 2021] Thermite >> You have My First Grimoire as a Christmas gift and it's your most treasured possession?
[Sun Jun 20 01:19:59 2021] Elle_Mayo >> if you want to give your character a bit more background for chaos magic RP, i do recommend glancing over Liber Null, it's only a hundred pages or so and half of it is diagrams, it's pretty easy to read and gives a bit of structure to the otherwise laissez faire nature of the tradition
[Sun Jun 20 01:20:17 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> It literally makes no difference for adepts so I just went, hermatic fuck it lol
[Sun Jun 20 01:20:51 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> That shit is much easier to figure out for mages lol
[Sun Jun 20 01:21:13 2021] Thermite >> Not necessarily
[Sun Jun 20 01:21:31 2021] Elle_Mayo >> https://azinelibrary.org/trash/LiberNull.pdf
[Sun Jun 20 01:21:38 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> >The only reason Crowley is Black Magic mage is because he has high CHA lol
[Sun Jun 20 01:22:13 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Does "I was trained to use my powers as tools" fall under hermatic?
[Sun Jun 20 01:22:46 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Because Guilt was *kinda* prepped for thievery
[Sun Jun 20 01:25:43 2021] Thermite >> Heh.
[Sun Jun 20 01:25:45 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Hexi often says "as the hermetics have [insert snide comment that shows she doesn't like hermetics here] it's called X"
[Sun Jun 20 01:26:08 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Guilt appreciates when someone gives ponters
[Sun Jun 20 01:26:09 2021] Elle_Mayo >> perfect <:kittyhehe:563192878503821332>
[Sun Jun 20 01:26:26 2021] Thermite >> Thermite just learned to call stuff by the Hermetic name because they're the nerds that write everything down.
[Sun Jun 20 01:27:02 2021] Elle_Mayo >> they're also the ones that have systemic backing so everything is standardized around them at least in the western world
[Sun Jun 20 01:27:30 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> Guilt knows fuck all about magic. He's literally Todd Howard'ing it
[Sun Jun 20 01:27:38 2021] Guilt-Trip/Crowley >> "It just works"
[Sun Jun 20 01:28:42 2021] Thermite >> I'm fucking pissed Strassenhexe isn't in the English versio
[Sun Jun 20 01:29:47 2021] Thermite >> (Thermite is doing that but slowly)
[Sun Jun 20 01:30:00 2021] Elle_Mayo >> vi hart did a good video about it but she focused mainly on the mathematical aspects, the rabbit hole goes much deeper with their culty behaviours
[Sun Jun 20 01:30:06 2021] Thermite >> (you don't get to arcana 5 without reading)
[Sun Jun 20 01:30:28 2021] Elle_Mayo >> like actually murdered a guy for proving that non-whole numbers exist
[Sun Jun 20 01:30:52 2021] Elle_Mayo >> or was it irrational numbers... yeah, I think so, it was a proof of the square root of 2
[Sun Jun 20 01:31:20 2021] Thermite >> If it's the sea that murders you, is it really a murder?
[Sun Jun 20 01:31:52 2021] Elle_Mayo >> depends, did it ask your consent first
[Sun Jun 20 01:43:06 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> https://youtu.be/mJLB7SRGgFc
[Sun Jun 20 01:43:35 2021] Elle_Mayo >> THIS SOUNTRACK FUCKING SLAPS
[Sun Jun 20 01:44:38 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Thank Trazyn for it, they were the one that showed it first
[Sun Jun 20 01:44:44 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> And I love it
[Sun Jun 20 01:44:59 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Plus it fits Akane really nicely
[Sun Jun 20 01:47:06 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Full circle then!
[Sun Jun 20 01:47:13 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> It's very good
[Sun Jun 20 01:47:57 2021] Flatline >> 👏
[Sun Jun 20 01:48:39 2021] Elle_Mayo >> unbeatable is a rhythm game set in a future where music is illegal and you do crimes.
[Sun Jun 20 02:25:05 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Now I have to decide if Akane would be the type of person to actually talk about that she has tattoos or if it would make it to obvious
[Sun Jun 20 02:25:27 2021] Elle_Mayo >> hehe
[Sun Jun 20 02:25:31 2021] Thermite >> Why is melbourne the one place without a nickname...
[Sun Jun 20 02:25:34 2021] Thermite >> Damn you, google!
[Sun Jun 20 02:25:56 2021] Elle_Mayo >> Muse doesn't talk about hers because they're identifying marks (and because they're secretly magical foci)
[Sun Jun 20 02:26:16 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Akane is a former yak
[Sun Jun 20 02:26:25 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Anf her entire back is filled
[Sun Jun 20 02:26:48 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> This I Akane's tattoo
[Sun Jun 20 02:27:13 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> She adds a new flower with every kill she makes
[Sun Jun 20 02:27:15 2021] Thermite >> snek
[Sun Jun 20 02:27:22 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Dragon
[Sun Jun 20 02:27:36 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> A very specific dragon
[Sun Jun 20 02:27:41 2021] Charon >> You can refer to people from Melbourne as Melbournites
[Sun Jun 20 02:28:08 2021] Thermite >> I saw some cool ones, like Sandgropers and Bananabenders.
[Sun Jun 20 02:28:29 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Not just specific because she is a yak but because of what that dragon stands for in lore
[Sun Jun 20 02:28:35 2021] Elle_Mayo >> ohhh, that's ... yeah that would be pretty telling
[Sun Jun 20 02:30:27 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I'll see if I can fetch the name real quick
[Sun Jun 20 02:31:11 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> But yahh even her saying she has tattoos would be telling, even if she didn't show them
[Sun Jun 20 02:34:56 2021] Thermite >> Why are you bullying poor Charon...
[Sun Jun 20 02:35:34 2021] Charon >> Look, *I* know, but it is 100% not something Charon would know.
[Sun Jun 20 02:35:47 2021] Thermite >> Likewise.
[Sun Jun 20 02:36:04 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I don't know in English and I have no clue what you might be refering to
[Sun Jun 20 02:36:17 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Not from that discription
[Sun Jun 20 02:38:16 2021] Charon >> Google Incognito mode is your friend
[Sun Jun 20 02:38:33 2021] Thermite >> Don't use incognito, you coward.
[Sun Jun 20 02:41:13 2021] Elle_Mayo >> <:nsa:358778606517878804>
[Sun Jun 20 02:41:38 2021] Thermite >> Oh, no, the Americans are onto our wily European sex habits.
[Sun Jun 20 02:44:13 2021] Charon >> Most of my incognito mode is just "What is this thing that someone said that I vaguely suspect I'm going to need Urban Dictionary for?"
[Sun Jun 20 02:46:04 2021] Flatline >> Just add shadowrun to all your searches
[Sun Jun 20 02:46:23 2021] Charon >> Now I need to actually make that a custom contact
[Sun Jun 20 02:46:30 2021] Charon >> Like, a coyote or something
[Sun Jun 20 02:46:40 2021] flybypie >> i wish the internet police had more power to know what i mean when i google stuff
[Sun Jun 20 02:46:53 2021] flybypie >> im tired of sr5 giving me stupid trucks
[Sun Jun 20 02:47:40 2021] Thermite >> I don't like marmite, but there was some vegemite twizzlers that come out on Christmas, and they're unreasonably good.
[Sun Jun 20 02:48:55 2021] Charon >> Also surprised noone questioned "doona"
[Sun Jun 20 02:49:06 2021] Charon >> I was under the impression that that was an Aussie word
[Sun Jun 20 03:09:44 2021] Thermite >> I can only imagine how crazy Australian sea borders are in the sixth world, considering what I hear of them nowadays
[Sun Jun 20 03:10:33 2021] Charon >> Who knows?
[Sun Jun 20 03:10:53 2021] Thermite >> Whoever's GMing your psr, I'd say.
[Sun Jun 20 03:10:56 2021] Charon >> Not us, since CGL doesn't care about anything except North America, Europe and Hong Kong
[Sun Jun 20 03:11:24 2021] Thermite >> They get parts of Europe, and they have pegasus for Germany
[Sun Jun 20 03:11:41 2021] Charon >> Hmm
[Sun Jun 20 03:11:51 2021] Charon >> Maybe I should bring shell on my upcoming PSR
[Sun Jun 20 03:11:52 2021] Thermite >> Their French writeup wasn't too bad, but I'm not an expert on France
[Sun Jun 20 03:11:55 2021] Charon >> However there is a problem
[Sun Jun 20 03:12:12 2021] Charon >> They would most likely not be able to use their own vehicles...
[Sun Jun 20 03:12:43 2021] Charon >> And they'd have to share a cabin with other people, and Hotspurs are not known for being spacious.
[Sun Jun 20 03:12:51 2021] Thermite >> Shipping containers
[Sun Jun 20 03:12:54 2021] Thermite >> ?
[Sun Jun 20 03:13:02 2021] Thermite >> Oughta fit a car or two
[Sun Jun 20 03:13:04 2021] Charon >> Eh?
[Sun Jun 20 03:13:06 2021] Charon >> No
[Sun Jun 20 03:13:09 2021] Charon >> This is different
[Sun Jun 20 03:13:24 2021] Charon >> I have a PSR I've saved up for to get my Hotspur
[Sun Jun 20 03:13:44 2021] Thermite >> Aight, I don't know the deets, I'll be quiet ^^
[Sun Jun 20 03:14:25 2021] Elle_Mayo >> why not be able to use their own vehicles? 😮
[Sun Jun 20 03:14:30 2021] Charon >> Shell would probably be really good for it, however they would probably be very uncomfortable the whole time, because they wouldn't be able to use any of their own vehicles
[Sun Jun 20 03:14:39 2021] Charon >> Too slow/low acceleration
[Sun Jun 20 03:14:50 2021] Charon >> Shell has a Roadmaster and a Bulldog, iirc
[Sun Jun 20 03:15:00 2021] Elle_Mayo >> ahhh
[Sun Jun 20 03:15:04 2021] Thermite >> SPEED SPEED SPEED
[Sun Jun 20 03:15:18 2021] Charon >> This will involve high-speed off-roading
[Sun Jun 20 03:15:37 2021] Charon >> Then again, I guess Shell could just chill in the Valkyrie Module
[Sun Jun 20 03:16:20 2021] Thermite >> God, I had a Hotspur in 4e on my rigger. Had a deployable cull on the back, vindicator on the front. Ork with a ruhrmetal in the driver's seat. Good memories.
[Sun Jun 20 03:18:36 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I'm still waiting for RD to rule on the shape [material] spell *I see the ticket  and it's been there a long time*
[Sun Jun 20 03:19:07 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I was hoping it would have been ruled on by now but sadly not :(
[Sun Jun 20 03:19:24 2021] Charon >> This is useful information
[Sun Jun 20 03:20:14 2021] Thermite >> link to the ticket? wanna know if I'd need to change anything. (I've been running it as RAW as possible, I think)
[Sun Jun 20 03:21:42 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I believe the ticket is to make it basically simpler so you don't need to grab [plastcreet] and [concrete] as seperate spells
[Sun Jun 20 03:21:58 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> But it will just be under shape [earth]
[Sun Jun 20 03:22:16 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> And [earth] will just have a bunch in it
[Sun Jun 20 03:22:37 2021] Thermite >> I've had to deal with reinforced concrete before, so I'm most likely getting Shape [Metal] or something in the future.
[Sun Jun 20 03:22:44 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I believe it was, Fire, Water, Air, Earth, Metal
[Sun Jun 20 03:23:02 2021] Thermite >> Wuxing getting their shit together and actually doing useful magic?
[Sun Jun 20 03:23:31 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I believe it was just the elements that was surggested
[Sun Jun 20 03:23:40 2021] Elle_Mayo >> the wuxing elements arent exactly about substances anyway
[Sun Jun 20 03:24:41 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Because atm your plastcreet one, unless the gm is generous, would probably never really be useful. I have seen you use it on the job we were on
[Sun Jun 20 03:25:11 2021] Thermite >> It's Concrete, as suggested by the CRB - I'm always checking if that's okay.
[Sun Jun 20 03:25:24 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> And because I don't like that the ruling haven't been done yet I didn't point out your spell wouldn't work on the building
[Sun Jun 20 03:25:28 2021] Thermite >> Street Grimoire.
[Sun Jun 20 03:25:39 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I know the spell
[Sun Jun 20 03:25:54 2021] Elle_Mayo >> the rules as written are pretty limiting, yeah.
[Sun Jun 20 03:25:58 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> But also sadly wouldn't have worked to make a hole in the building
[Sun Jun 20 03:26:05 2021] Thermite >> Why not?
[Sun Jun 20 03:26:16 2021] Elle_Mayo >> plascrete is a different substance from concrete
[Sun Jun 20 03:26:21 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Cause a building is not concrete
[Sun Jun 20 03:26:34 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> It's layers of shit
[Sun Jun 20 03:26:41 2021] Thermite >> Yeah, I was wondering if there was a different reason.
[Sun Jun 20 03:27:13 2021] Thermite >> I mean, yeah, there'd be cables and whatnot, insulation, and the works.
[Sun Jun 20 03:27:16 2021] Elle_Mayo >> ah yeah
[Sun Jun 20 03:27:23 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I'm grabbing shape [earth] because I know some GM's have implemented the ticket on their table
[Sun Jun 20 03:27:51 2021] Thermite >> Arguably wouldn't work with Asphalt, either.
[Sun Jun 20 03:28:02 2021] Thermite >> But Asphalt is concrete with bits.
[Sun Jun 20 03:28:17 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> In the ticket asphalt is lobbed in with [earth]
[Sun Jun 20 03:28:47 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Asphalt would be to different, your concrete wouldn't work sadly
[Sun Jun 20 03:28:47 2021] Thermite >> Yeah, I was looking for the ticket's phrasing, because it sounds like something very interesting (and relevant) to me.
[Sun Jun 20 03:29:06 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Yep
[Sun Jun 20 03:29:29 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Can't be bothered to try to dig for it now, sorry
[Sun Jun 20 03:29:33 2021] Thermite >> No worries.
[Sun Jun 20 03:29:35 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> It's harder on the phone
[Sun Jun 20 03:29:59 2021] Thermite >> Yeah, and it's like 6:30 am where you are, isn't it?
[Sun Jun 20 03:30:16 2021] Thermite >> (or something, not a time expert)
[Sun Jun 20 03:30:36 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> 5:30
[Sun Jun 20 03:31:05 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Merc you are a skat
[Sun Jun 20 03:31:10 2021] Thermite >> Merc being legend again.
[Sun Jun 20 03:31:35 2021] Elle_Mayo >> <https://trello.com/c/c7os9mtY/662-standardize-shape-material-spells> --- damn im too slow
[Sun Jun 20 03:31:42 2021] Thermite >> That is a word that I want translated.
[Sun Jun 20 03:31:57 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Skat?
[Sun Jun 20 03:32:12 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> It's "darling"
[Sun Jun 20 03:32:30 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Or "treasure"
[Sun Jun 20 03:32:46 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Or like "sweetheart"
[Sun Jun 20 03:33:20 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> It's an affectionate word you can call someone
[Sun Jun 20 03:33:49 2021] Elle_Mayo >> absolutely unacceptable, never do anything helpful again in case i might also be doing it
[Sun Jun 20 03:33:54 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> But yahh I know some GM's have implemented that tickets into their table rules
[Sun Jun 20 03:33:59 2021] Thermite >> That's cool, learned new words.
[Sun Jun 20 03:34:11 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> It's Danish
[Sun Jun 20 03:34:17 2021] Thermite >> Fucking people, coming here, helping others like they're some kind of... helper person.
[Sun Jun 20 03:34:22 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> The literal translation is "treasure"
[Sun Jun 20 03:34:27 2021] Thermite >> Ah
[Sun Jun 20 03:34:30 2021] Thermite >> Like Schatz.
[Sun Jun 20 03:34:31 2021] Charon >> I am definitely not taking "skat" into my day-to-day life
[Sun Jun 20 03:34:39 2021] Charon >> 😄
[Sun Jun 20 03:34:47 2021] Thermite >> Means 'stingray' in my native tongue, funnily enough.
[Sun Jun 20 03:34:47 2021] Elle_Mayo >> actually tho you did it better than me so... good work!
[Sun Jun 20 03:34:49 2021] Thermite >> No idea why.
[Sun Jun 20 03:35:11 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Like I would call Jag "Skat" in a very different way than I would call Merc it for being helpful
[Sun Jun 20 03:35:42 2021] Elle_Mayo >> it does look like most of the people reviewing the ticket were on board with it
[Sun Jun 20 03:35:47 2021] Elle_Mayo >> they just havent gotten around to formalizing it yet
[Sun Jun 20 03:36:06 2021] Thermite >> Yess... More power....
[Sun Jun 20 03:36:21 2021] Flatline >> Thermite
[Sun Jun 20 03:36:21 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> But yahh I'm taking shape [earth] and then just asking the gm if they apply the ticket or not
[Sun Jun 20 03:36:26 2021] Flatline >> Earth bender
[Sun Jun 20 03:36:47 2021] Thermite >> Long ago, the four nations lived in harmony
[Sun Jun 20 03:37:07 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> ||may or may not have plans for hexi to earthbend at the solstice||
[Sun Jun 20 03:37:41 2021] Thermite >> I'm planning to start making good arguments in magical theory on the solstice, gotta use them 11 dice and also the arcana
[Sun Jun 20 03:38:51 2021] Thermite >> That change might make me try and veer off into Mystic Foreman
[Sun Jun 20 03:39:26 2021] Thermite >> Delay initiation further
[Sun Jun 20 03:39:32 2021] Thermite >> Just don't initiate
[Sun Jun 20 03:39:36 2021] Thermite >> It's for nerds
[Sun Jun 20 03:39:39 2021] Elle_Mayo >> if you center by doing tai chi...
[Sun Jun 20 03:40:32 2021] Thermite >> People are continuously surprised how professional he is at times, almost as much as he is
[Sun Jun 20 03:41:14 2021] Thermite >> Log skills are whack
[Sun Jun 20 03:41:33 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Hexi is not good at bay knowledge skills
[Sun Jun 20 03:42:12 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> She is log 2 and intuition 5 I think
[Sun Jun 20 03:42:25 2021] Thermite >> Log 2 clearly the superior way. Not biased.
[Sun Jun 20 03:42:42 2021] Thermite >> I've tried to show that he gets magic, it's just the putting it to words part that he's bad at.
[Sun Jun 20 03:42:49 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I need to saise her strength to a 2
[Sun Jun 20 03:42:56 2021] Elle_Mayo >> simply put all your mentals as high as they will go and skimp on your physicals despite having no actual need to do so
[Sun Jun 20 03:43:18 2021] Thermite >> My physical limit is the same as my mental one
[Sun Jun 20 03:43:26 2021] Thermite >> Bod 5 Rea 5 is good.
[Sun Jun 20 03:43:27 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Hexi was never surposed be in combat
[Sun Jun 20 03:43:33 2021] Charon >> Charon's physical limit is lower than this mental, I think
[Sun Jun 20 03:43:36 2021] Charon >> Let me check
[Sun Jun 20 03:43:45 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> If she is in combat something has potentially gone very wrong
[Sun Jun 20 03:44:17 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Akane (because FLR) is really good mentals and physical
[Sun Jun 20 03:45:00 2021] Elle_Mayo >> FLR is the secret hack to have both good mentals and physicals
[Sun Jun 20 03:45:29 2021] Elle_Mayo >> it's hard to get much of anything else though since it costs so much money and attributes
[Sun Jun 20 03:46:14 2021] Crackle >> FLR is very good, but it does eat like your entire res a pick
[Sun Jun 20 03:46:53 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Yahh
[Sun Jun 20 03:47:14 2021] Thermite >> just dont customise them at game start. Replace them as the game goes on.
[Sun Jun 20 03:47:15 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Akane has a 10 mental limit and a 10 Physical if I remember right
[Sun Jun 20 03:47:42 2021] Thermite >> Thermite's highest limit is his social one.
[Sun Jun 20 03:47:46 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> She has optimized limbs and all the enchaced
[Sun Jun 20 03:48:02 2021] Thermite >> But also. What are limits.
[Sun Jun 20 03:49:07 2021] Thermite >> Cybersingularity seeker is such a cheat 😄
[Sun Jun 20 03:49:19 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I just got it
[Sun Jun 20 03:49:40 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> But her 10 mental is from a +3 from her mnemonic enhancers
[Sun Jun 20 03:49:42 2021] Elle_Mayo >> simply bind a health focus and run increase intuition at all times
[Sun Jun 20 03:49:42 2021] Thermite >> It and Redliner are just so good.
[Sun Jun 20 03:49:55 2021] Elle_Mayo >> then spend 4 initiations on hiding that fact
[Sun Jun 20 03:50:14 2021] Crackle >> Simply channel a f8 spirit 24/7
[Sun Jun 20 03:50:24 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> 
[Sun Jun 20 03:50:49 2021] Thermite >> Initiation is wack. All my homies hate initiation. ~no we dont please initiate#
[Sun Jun 20 03:50:59 2021] Crackle >> Is there a blurb anywhere explaining the physical obviousness of possession and channeling
[Sun Jun 20 03:51:10 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> And those (8) are 9's of it only dependent on her limbs
[Sun Jun 20 03:51:29 2021] Charon >> Found it. Physical limit 6, mental limit 8
[Sun Jun 20 03:51:56 2021] Charon >> Charon loves his Mnemonic Enhancer
[Sun Jun 20 03:52:04 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Mnemonic enhancers R3 is what Akane jumped directly to
[Sun Jun 20 03:52:09 2021] Thermite >> Neeeerd
[Sun Jun 20 03:52:27 2021] Charon >> As an uneducated man, he values intelligence, and he likes that it makes him feel smarter
[Sun Jun 20 03:52:36 2021] Thermite >> can he spell photosynthesis?
[Sun Jun 20 03:52:38 2021] Elle_Mayo >> not really, its implied across a dozen different descriptions of various things
[Sun Jun 20 03:52:46 2021] Charon >> He can!
[Sun Jun 20 03:52:49 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Wanted it for the mental one, since I noticed I literally could not spot some peoples disguises
[Sun Jun 20 03:53:14 2021] Crackle >> I know some possession is very subtle but I've also seen it implied that it's very flagrant
[Sun Jun 20 03:53:20 2021] Elle_Mayo >> what arts did u grab
[Sun Jun 20 03:53:43 2021] Elle_Mayo >> fabulous
[Sun Jun 20 03:53:56 2021] Thermite >> I'll grab centering after... about 90 karma.
[Sun Jun 20 03:54:21 2021] Thermite >> I don't really do high force spells, and spellcasting ranks do SO MUCH for me.
[Sun Jun 20 03:54:25 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Hexi got masking as her initiation
[Sun Jun 20 03:55:05 2021] Elle_Mayo >> but not everyone is that kind of mage
[Sun Jun 20 03:55:05 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> And because she had low Logic an not really any acana I need to get an initiation run on her
[Sun Jun 20 03:55:13 2021] Thermite >> You initiate with int, though.
[Sun Jun 20 03:55:20 2021] Thermite >> So you should be fine.
[Sun Jun 20 03:55:41 2021] Elle_Mayo >> its also a cumulative roll
[Sun Jun 20 03:55:42 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Wait really?
[Sun Jun 20 03:55:46 2021] Crackle >> Initiation is int+arcana
[Sun Jun 20 03:55:48 2021] Crackle >> Yeah
[Sun Jun 20 03:55:54 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I thought it was still Logic
[Sun Jun 20 03:55:55 2021] Thermite >> Yuup.
[Sun Jun 20 03:56:12 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> *hmm* I might ask to roll next time I'm on a table then m
[Sun Jun 20 03:56:12 2021] Elle_Mayo >> yeah
[Sun Jun 20 03:56:14 2021] Thermite >> Logic is for stuff like figuring out spells and making your own spell designs.
[Sun Jun 20 03:56:18 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> And have the karma
[Sun Jun 20 03:56:20 2021] Thermite >> With Arcana.
[Sun Jun 20 03:56:22 2021] Crackle >> Extended test and you can backdated it to the day your toon was stamped
[Sun Jun 20 03:56:23 2021] Elle_Mayo >> p. 325
[Sun Jun 20 03:56:47 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Well! Guess STR 2 might need to wait now XD
[Sun Jun 20 03:56:59 2021] Thermite >> Also, imagine needing spell formulas or even lodges. ~~Come on, talismonger, it's your one sole fucking job~~
[Sun Jun 20 03:57:05 2021] Crackle >> All my homies pump IG
[Sun Jun 20 03:57:20 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Wanna get initiations and make it even harder for people to read her aura
[Sun Jun 20 03:58:42 2021] Thermite >> I'm getting 2 Arcana ranks from the Solstice, then it's either 1 more Spellcasting rank or DD, depending on the time I get the karma. Afterwards it's the same.
[Sun Jun 20 03:59:09 2021] Thermite >> Also need to get Spec (Illusion) at some point.
[Sun Jun 20 03:59:25 2021] Thermite >> And might swing for a cheeky Physical Illusionist.
[Sun Jun 20 03:59:31 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I'm gonna get levitate and shape [earth] from the solstice
[Sun Jun 20 03:59:51 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Hexi got her illusionist and her spec
[Sun Jun 20 04:00:12 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Need a second illusionist though for mana spells
[Sun Jun 20 04:00:28 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> So I got a physical and mental one
[Sun Jun 20 04:00:43 2021] Crackle >> When is the solstice
[Sun Jun 20 04:00:43 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> She also needs potion maker...
[Sun Jun 20 04:00:54 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Today/tomorrow
[Sun Jun 20 04:00:55 2021] Thermite >> Today/tomorrow
[Sun Jun 20 04:00:58 2021] Thermite >> jinx.
[Sun Jun 20 04:01:02 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> :P
[Sun Jun 20 04:02:01 2021] Thermite >> But, yeah, good stuff. I'm not branching out of spellcasting until I get to, like, 10 spellcasting.
[Sun Jun 20 04:02:26 2021] Thermite >> Too many free spells 😄
[Sun Jun 20 04:02:30 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Squrll said he wanted to run a cocktail based run for Warlock way back
[Sun Jun 20 04:02:46 2021] Elle_Mayo >> sunrise in seattle is in about 8 hours and 10 minutes
[Sun Jun 20 04:02:59 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Thanks! 👍
[Sun Jun 20 04:03:02 2021] Thermite >> Hmm, should be done with work by then.
[Sun Jun 20 04:03:11 2021] Thermite >> Which reminds me, I need to head to bed.
[Sun Jun 20 04:03:12 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> I might be awake and aware
[Sun Jun 20 04:03:16 2021] Elle_Mayo >> that's the official start time on the invitation, but yall can probably start doing stuff whenever 😛
[Sun Jun 20 04:03:41 2021] Thermite >> Pleasure being part of this coven! (Were covens women only? Do we care, with the sheer amount of Chaos mages?)
[Sun Jun 20 04:03:41 2021] Elle_Mayo >> and most people won't start showing up until the afternoon
[Sun Jun 20 04:04:00 2021] Elle_Mayo >> depends on the coven, and certainly not
[Sun Jun 20 04:04:51 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Hexi is a shaman, but probably quite close to Chaos magic way of thinking
[Sun Jun 20 04:05:51 2021] Charon >> 8 hours from now is... 10PM
[Sun Jun 20 04:05:52 2021] Charon >> Hmm
[Sun Jun 20 04:06:16 2021] Elle_Mayo >> 5:11 PDT, which is currently...UTC-7, I think
[Sun Jun 20 04:12:04 2021] Elle_Mayo >> manhattan does sound like miller's vibe >w< i think i even remember sqrrl saying he'd like to run there sometime
[Sun Jun 20 04:13:52 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> It was a run where he was surposed to be hired as a decker
[Sun Jun 20 04:13:58 2021] Elle_Mayo >> LOL
[Sun Jun 20 04:14:02 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Cause Hexi was the J
[Sun Jun 20 04:14:14 2021] Elle_Mayo >> i mean... he does have a deck, but...
[Sun Jun 20 04:14:22 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> And Hexi and him did most of the job
[Sun Jun 20 04:14:26 2021] Flatline >> also a plane
[Sun Jun 20 04:14:38 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> The plane was very useful
[Sun Jun 20 04:14:43 2021] Flatline >> so i guess that helped with getting to new york
[Sun Jun 20 04:15:06 2021] Elle_Mayo >> it sounds like a good time
[Sun Jun 20 04:15:21 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> ||and we found a really bad oversight in the rules that I won't mention cause there is no simple fix, so just ignore it||
[Sun Jun 20 04:15:31 2021] Laura (Akane/Hexi) >> Yep really helped
[Sun Jun 20 04:17:41 2021] Charon >> The plane helped massively
[Sun Jun 20 04:18:14 2021] Charon >> He had a contact to get landing permissions for the river, because when you own a seaplane, why not land in the water?
[Sun Jun 20 04:18:57 2021] Elle_Mayo >> absolutely
[Sun Jun 20 04:19:15 2021] Charon >> Okay, I'm now reminded of a story my Dad told me
[Sun Jun 20 04:20:22 2021] Charon >> He was in the army for 20 years, and ended up doing several different jobs, eventually moving into preventative medicine, which I think was the last thing he did
[Sun Jun 20 04:21:09 2021] Charon >> So he was in Papua New Guinea for a training exercise, and the locals decided to cook up a pig, using that method where you bury it and cook it.
[Sun Jun 20 04:22:15 2021] Charon >> The locals cooked it for like three hours. My Dad apparently went digging through paperwork and books and shit like that, finding out all the health rules about it, because the locals wanted to share it with the soldiers.
[Sun Jun 20 04:22:54 2021] Charon >> Cue him having a row with his CO or whatever, saying they couldn't eat it.
[Sun Jun 20 04:23:36 2021] Charon >> Basically, the specific way they were cooking it, in order for the rules to consider it safe to eat, it was supposed to be cooked for three days, not three hours.
[Sun Jun 20 04:24:22 2021] Charon >> "Oh, but the locals say they're been cooking it this way forever."
"And they've been eating it for generations, their digestive systems are adapted to it."

Was more or less how it went I think.
[Sun Jun 20 04:24:35 2021] Charon >> So no underground pork for the soldiers.
[Sun Jun 20 04:24:50 2021] Charon >> That was not as interesting of a story as I thought it was when I started typing
[Sun Jun 20 04:24:52 2021] Charon >> Sorry.
[Sun Jun 20 04:25:49 2021] Charon >> Oh, I have another fun one!
[Sun Jun 20 04:27:13 2021] Charon >> When the East Timor crisis happened, my dad was in the reserves, but he ended up going because they called him three times asking him to go over for the UN thing, because he had 20 years of experience under his belt and they needed more people in preventative medicine.
[Sun Jun 20 04:27:28 2021] Charon >> And I remember him being kind of proud when he told me this one
[Sun Jun 20 04:28:52 2021] Charon >> Him and the people he worked with, did such a good job of keeping the soldiers from getting sick, that a doctor from the army hospital, who was a complete idiot, came over to them and asked if they could stop doing such a good job, because they didn't have enough to do at the hospital
[Sun Jun 20 04:29:08 2021] Charon >> I don't know what happened to that man. I hope he got smarter.
[Sun Jun 20 04:31:10 2021] Charon >> I have a pile of these, but I don't think people would appreciate me cluttering this chat with them
[Sun Jun 20 04:32:01 2021] Elle_Mayo >> it's definitely fine with me! i'm reading between tending to various things
[Sun Jun 20 04:32:17 2021] Elle_Mayo >> sad that they didn't get to eat the underground pork though
[Sun Jun 20 04:32:26 2021] Charon >> Hmm. Alright then.
[Sun Jun 20 04:33:18 2021] Charon >> Let's see... One time he ordered a bayonet charge during a... I guess the word would be training exercise?
[Sun Jun 20 04:33:53 2021] Charon >> It was his sergeants course I think, and he had to show he could lead soldiers in the right environment or whatever.
[Sun Jun 20 04:34:24 2021] Charon >> So it was sort of a wargame I guess? The opposite side was their instructors, and they were holding a position on top of a hill
[Sun Jun 20 04:35:13 2021] Charon >> Basically, they spent ages shooting up at this hill, and eventually my Dad realised the instructors basically weren't taking their hits, which was why it was dragging on so long.
[Sun Jun 20 04:35:37 2021] Charon >> So he just turned around and went "Right, they should have been dead three times by now, everyone fix bayonets."
[Sun Jun 20 04:35:43 2021] Charon >> And they all charged up the hill.
[Sun Jun 20 04:35:55 2021] Charon >> Believe it or not, he did become a sergeant.
[Sun Jun 20 04:36:23 2021] Elle_Mayo >> hahahaha
[Sun Jun 20 04:37:04 2021] Charon >> Another thing he's proud of, I think. He worked really hard for it and made it in less than half the time it would normally take to get to that rank. Out of spite. Because someone told him he would never be a sergeant.
[Sun Jun 20 04:37:39 2021] Charon >> What else...
[Sun Jun 20 04:38:45 2021] Charon >> A very short one: Once on training exercise up in Papua New Guinea, he heard that there was a unit of marines also training in the area that basically refused to obey orders or train because they weren't getting ice cream.
[Sun Jun 20 04:38:48 2021] Charon >> I like that one
[Sun Jun 20 04:39:52 2021] Charon >> lol
[Sun Jun 20 04:41:41 2021] Charon >> Hmm... While in East Timor, he got invited to the Kenyan Sergeants mess (I think he was a warrant officer at the time, but from what I understand, that's more or less an intermediate position, and he was still essentially a sergeant, but with lots of experience and performing some of the roles of an officer).
[Sun Jun 20 04:41:50 2021] Charon >> Apparently, it was very surreal
[Sun Jun 20 04:42:13 2021] Charon >> He was taken to a bombed out house, just a blackened framework, and they sat him down at a table
[Sun Jun 20 04:42:24 2021] Charon >> There was a single plate, and a single set of cutlery
[Sun Jun 20 04:42:58 2021] Charon >> A man came out with one of those white waiter cloths draped over one arm, carrying a platter, with a dome lid, like a fancy one.
[Sun Jun 20 04:43:26 2021] Charon >> He set it down in front of him, opened up the lid, and there was a single slice of dry toast and a hardboiled egg.
[Sun Jun 20 04:43:38 2021] Charon >> Which is about where that story ends.
[Sun Jun 20 04:43:52 2021] Elle_Mayo >> that is bizarre
[Sun Jun 20 04:43:59 2021] Elle_Mayo >> any clue why the theatrics?
[Sun Jun 20 04:47:06 2021] Charon >> No idea
[Sun Jun 20 04:47:17 2021] Charon >> Maybe they wanted to have a laugh?
[Sun Jun 20 04:47:27 2021] Charon >> Maybe they were putting on a show?
[Sun Jun 20 04:47:35 2021] Charon >> Maybe they were just being nice?
[Sun Jun 20 04:47:41 2021] Charon >> Who knows?
[Sun Jun 20 04:48:32 2021] Charon >> I do know that my Dad has a corkboard in his office though, with a bunch of patches he acquired in the army pinned to it, and one of them is a Kenyan flag. So presumably they got along alright
[Sun Jun 20 04:52:00 2021] Charon >> Have people had enough?
[Sun Jun 20 04:52:19 2021] Charon >> I can think of a few more
[Sun Jun 20 04:56:31 2021] Switch >> I wonder if there's a 6th world equivalent to "Anyways, here's wonderwall"
[Sun Jun 20 04:57:00 2021] Charon >> Oh god
[Sun Jun 20 04:57:02 2021] Charon >> I hope not
[Sun Jun 20 04:58:11 2021] Switch >> Think GuitAR™️ players play Smoke on Water still?
[Sun Jun 20 04:58:19 2021] Nine >> Oh absolutely
[Sun Jun 20 04:58:33 2021] Nine >> Wonderwall will always reign supreme
[Sun Jun 20 05:02:34 2021] Crackle >> Whats your view on PvP
[Sun Jun 20 05:03:11 2021] Switch >> whew
[Sun Jun 20 05:03:27 2021] Switch >> that'd be a fucking brawl right there.
[Sun Jun 20 05:05:06 2021] Nine >> #TeamWonderwall
[Sun Jun 20 05:06:47 2021] Crackle >> PSR to wipe it from the matrix
[Sun Jun 20 05:07:03 2021] Elle_Mayo >> you really hate it that much?
[Sun Jun 20 05:08:21 2021] Elle_Mayo >> tbh i like Falling Down a lot better but
[Sun Jun 20 05:09:41 2021] Elle_Mayo >> congrats!
[Sun Jun 20 05:09:55 2021] Nine >> Welcome back to the future, Kato!
[Sun Jun 20 05:11:28 2021] Elle_Mayo >> mostly this is because it was the opening to Eden of the East and that show captivated me aesthetically
[Sun Jun 20 05:21:09 2021] Switch >> Ayyy, I know this Anime
[Sun Jun 20 05:59:08 2021] Charon >> Again
[Sun Jun 20 05:59:11 2021] Charon >> I'm so mad
[Sun Jun 20 05:59:25 2021] Charon >> 5 hits on 7 dice is amazing
[Sun Jun 20 05:59:28 2021] Charon >> But on fucking
[Sun Jun 20 05:59:43 2021] Elle_Mayo >> the dice tell a story
[Sun Jun 20 05:59:56 2021] Elle_Mayo >> and the story is 'anyway heres wonderwall'
[Sun Jun 20 06:42:30 2021] Mad Dog/Code Silver >> Just count it under Pool
[Sun Jun 20 06:42:31 2021] Charon >> So presumably at a certian lifestyle level you can just *have one*?
[Sun Jun 20 06:42:36 2021] Charon >> Ooooh
[Sun Jun 20 06:42:43 2021] Charon >> That's a good point
[Sun Jun 20 07:22:31 2021] Charon >> With an armour and body of 16, this thing better be able to resist at least small arms fire.
[Sun Jun 20 07:23:15 2021] Mad Dog/Code Silver >> I mean
[Sun Jun 20 07:23:47 2021] Charon >> SMGs at least.
[Sun Jun 20 07:23:53 2021] Mad Dog/Code Silver >> 16 armor, 32 soak... That's low-mid-range muscle character territory.
[Sun Jun 20 07:25:28 2021] Mad Dog/Code Silver >> What you want to consider is
- how well can it hold up to small arms stock
Vs
- how much money do you lose when opfor decides "fuck it, let's just shoot a missile at it"
[Sun Jun 20 07:26:49 2021] Mad Dog/Code Silver >> ~~which is why MD's final form gopher includes a missile defense system and a heavy laser turret~~
[Sun Jun 20 07:43:22 2021] Wingnut >> vehicle armor helps a lot, if the incoming DV is less than the armor (modified by AP) it just doesn't hurt the vehicle
[Sun Jun 20 07:43:51 2021] Wingnut >> ARs with good ammo will be hurting it
[Sun Jun 20 07:44:11 2021] Mad Dog/Code Silver >> Yep
[Sun Jun 20 07:44:48 2021] Wingnut >> it does also have like 20 boxes though
[Sun Jun 20 07:44:58 2021] Wingnut >> being a vehicle with 16 Bod
[Sun Jun 20 07:50:12 2021] Charon >> Nice